Video: Cryptocurrency as a Payment Method – The new growth potential for money service businesses

In our latest IPR Webinar, our expert partners from BP Ventures LLC joined RemitONE to explore the use of Cryptocurrency as a payment method in the money transfer industry, and how using the USDC can benefit money service businesses as they shift to a more digital way of transacting.

Webinar moderator:

Aamer Abedi, CMO, RemitONE

Panellists:

Jeffrey Phaneuf, Director, BP Ventures LLC
Anthony Barker, Director, BP Ventures LLC
Arif Saleem, CTO, RemitONE

Time Stamps

00:00 Introductions

14:24 What is the next big thing in the ecosystem for remittances?

17:29 How have you seen payment methods change over the years?

19:37 What is USDC? How does it compare to other USD-denominated stable coins?

23:29 Why use the USDC stable coin as a payment mechanism? 

28:27 What is the fear that MTOs may have using USDC? How do we address this?

31:31 How can we address the bank account issue?

34:45 What are the benefits of using USDC as a payment mechanism for the individual users?

37:54 What’s different from paying with a stable coin instead of traditional methods?

40:19 What is the cost to the MTOs?

43:10 How do we take advantage of the Moneygram USDC opportunity?

44:03 Risk profile of USDC vs. cash or card?

44:56 How can USDC as a payment mechanism decrease Chargeback rates & Fraud?

45:47 Margins are compressing for MSB’s, how does using USDC help increase revenues?

47:14 Are users going to use stable coins & can we settle it?

53:05 Next steps, how can we implement USDC as a payment mechanism leveraging RemitONE?

59:48 What procedures and policies need to be in place to enable USDC?

Please let us define the terms blockchain cryptocurrency stable coin and token.

Anthony: So, Blockchain is a word that you’ve probably heard in the news everywhere. It comes from Bitcoin which has a technological system where that verifies blocks of transactions (the blocks come every 10 minutes) and computers all over the world. Right now, in Bitcoin, there are over 5000 computers, called validators, that validate the transactions.

An example of a cryptocurrency is Bitcoin. Cryptocurrencies typically use blockchains. So, the ones you might have heard of might be Ripple, Stellar, Bitcoin and Ethereum. The difference between a stable coin and a token is that a stable coin is typically tied to the value of a currency. So, the one we’re talking about today is called USDC.

USDC is a stable coin issued by Circle Corporation, which is a US-regulated financial institution. It’s audited by third-party auditors. So, these are stable coins, they’re tied one to one. And in theory, you should be able to cash out $1 of USC for one US dollar.

Why Stellar? What, in your opinion, distinguishes Stellar from other blockchains?

Anthony: Stellar and Ripple would have been built up, really to focus on the international cross-border payments. At that point, Ripple was closed source; it was owned by one corporation and was really focused on promoting its XRP token, which was issued mostly to employees, founders and investors in Ripple. Then I compared it to stellar, all of the software was open-source from the beginning, and that seemed to me to be a better platform to build on where you can add additional value.

The volatility in the cryptocurrency markets, as evidenced by the fluctuating Bitcoin value graphs, can make a money service business, which obviously wants prices to be as stable as possible, extremely nervous. How does cryptocurrency as a payment method solution, that BP Ventures and RemitONE are proposing here, address this concern of volatility?

Anthony: Bitcoin and Ethereum are mostly used on these offshore contract-for-difference trading platforms, which are highly leveraged. So people are individual traders are trading at it at a 10 to one ratio or a 100 to one ratio, so you can have 100 bitcoins controlled with your one Bitcoin. So when the market collapses it has a tendency of going up very quickly and down very quickly now. But stable coins, because they’re tied to the US dollar or Euros, they are much better for remittance companies.

If you look at the bailouts that occurred in 2008, when major companies like Barclays and other major institutions went bankrupt, they had to have government intervention to save the whole ecosystem. If you look at cryptocurrency, to give them some benefit of the doubt, it’s still running. There are still transactions clearing, there’s still settlement, and the USSC dollar is still worth $1. So it is growing, and its funds are based on US Treasuries. So they’re not sitting their money in some risky offshore thing. All of their funds are in short-termed US Treasuries. So USDC is safe. With other Cryptos, there are different levels of risk.

What is the next big thing in the ecosystem for remittances?

Jeffrey: I think given the recent announcement of Moneygram’s cooperation with Stellar to offer USDC the cash in cash out, we believe that digital crypto blockchain powered payments is potentially the next big thing in the ecosystem. We’ve been involved in Stellar blockchain for a number of years. I think the fact that MoneyGram has confirmed their entry into this space, certainly confirms that using USDC as a payment mechanism on Stellar blockchain has some merits.

Arif: One of the big problems in remittances is the friction at different levels when you’re talking about international transfers. And any new technology, that can reduce that friction and reduce the cost associated with that friction, is definitely going to become more important as time goes along, especially if regulatory and other concerns can be addressed and delayed. So in that sense, it does appear as though one-to-one-backed stable coins offer a very friction-free international transfer.

USDC – what is it and how does it compare to other US-denominated stable coins like USDT and even CBDCs that aren’t mentioned?

Anthony: There are two main issuers in the United States as regulated institutions, one’s called Paxful, and the other one is called Circle. Its price equals one dollar. It hasn’t really fluctuated from that, in the past four years. It’s managed by something called the Circle Consortium, which is a group of companies that oversee the financial standards for stable coins and ensure there’s transparency around the one-to-one backing. That means for one USDC created there’s $1 held in reserves typically in a bank, or in US Treasuries. Now, USDC is available on multiple blockchains. And this is where it gets a little bit confusing for remittance companies. So there’s multiple blockchains around that are all competing, they’re vying to get adoption by users.

Why should the MSBs the money service businesses use the USDC stable coin as a payment mechanism?

Jeffrey: We believe that there are several compelling reasons why USDC as a payment mechanism is interesting for MSBs. One is that it’s fast, meaning that funds are received within 3 to 5 seconds, versus a payment that you would receive, let’s say, by a card processor that sends us the funds up to 15 seconds after the transaction was performed on the long side. So that’s one reason why we’re advocating USDC as a payment mechanism.

The second reason is that we think it’s better regarding decreasing both fraud and chargebacks. USDC payments are irreversible. And so again, my experience and depending on the MSB, we had significant chargebacks, we had fraud related to customers that would come back and were requesting a chargeback, which ultimately, and in some cases meant that we were out of the money at the end of the day. So this is where the USDC payment as a payment mechanism avoids this.

What are some of the fears the MTOs have the MSBs have about using USDC? And how do we address these fears?

Jeffrey: I think there are probably two particular items that obviously that come to mind. One is regulatory concerns when using cryptocurrency or stable coins. And that basically would be contingent on what jurisdiction the MSB is in and do they require any specific or additional licensing. The second item I would say is in the banking sphere. And MSBs normally are always susceptible to banking relations just in normal times. So certainly, bank relations are precious and MSBs may fear an impact if they offer USDC as a payment mechanism.

From an MSB perspective, as long as they meet the regulatory criteria, all they have to do is sign up with an entity like Circle to gain access to USDC and have this BP Ventures payment gateway enabled for their end-users?

Jeffrey: That’s right. To be able to assist those that have issues getting a USD Circle account, BP Ventures can assist at that stage. But for larger MSBs, yes, we would certainly recommend that they would just open the USD Circle accounts. And the fact that we’re going to have this integration directly into RemitONE means that there’s no setup fee, they’re off and running. And it should be really a compelling new payment mechanism to be able to offer MSBs customers.

What’s different from paying with a stable coin versus these traditional methods today?

Arif: So essentially, the payment process remains the same for the end-user. So, the same flow would happen, when using the BP Ventures gateway for collecting the USDC, it’s just that instead of providing your card details, you would instead be providing the wallet numbers from which the funds would be paid and the wallet to whom the funds are going to go. So, in that sense, the payment process is very similar, there’s not really a great deal of difference in terms of flexibility. One of the things about USDC tokens is that you don’t have to be in the US to use them. You don’t have to have a USD account to use USDC tokens – you could be in any country as long as it’s legal.

And what does using USDC mean, in terms of increasing revenues for our MSBs?

Jeffrey: With USDC, you get the funds immediately, you reduce your charge chargeback and fraud rates, meaning that you’re not at a loss in those areas. So, your revenues basically should go up due to the fact that the fee proposed is either for free or after 10,000. USDC is lower than cards means that your revenues again should go up, because hopefully the transaction is going to be more profitable.

And finally, are users going to use stable coins?

Anthony: So with BP, we have a certain approach that basically we think that an MSB should roll it out step by step. We’re pushing the acceptance of the USDC as the first step for MSBs. The second one is to actually as an MSB sell the USTC. So, customers can come online and actually buy the USDC and you can mark it up. Now the third step that MSBs may do in the future is actually settled with correspondence using USDC. We think that that’s going to happen in the future. We tried it previously, with tempo in the Philippines, we had it working to the Philippines, Nigeria, and Brazil. That worked. It’s just not quite there at the critical mass yet. So that’s why we’re really recommending it as a risk-based approach.

Jeffrey: We think there are a lot of compelling reasons to try it. And we’re going to try to make it from a technical side, as easy as possible as seamless as possible to incentivize people to use it, and to make the financial reason to use it as well, a compelling reason. So, we’re optimistic that it is a very viable way to make a payment.

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Video: Compliance and AML for Money Transfers – Everything you need to know

The panel consisted of experts from both RemitONE and our friends and partners in other global companies. In case you missed the discussion, here is a summary of the key insights.

Webinar moderator:

Oussama Kseibati, Associate Sales Director, RemitONE

Panellists:

Richard Spink, Sales Director, GBG
Gabrielle O. Micheals, Senior Compliance Officer, Nairagram
Imad Chishti, Director of Payments & Compliance, Evantagesoft
Ibrahim Muhammad, Payments Consultant, Finxplor Consulting Services

What are the main challenges facing MTOs regarding compliance and regulation?

Gabrielle: Well, it has to be adaptability. We all understand that countries have different guides, let’s say in the UK you have FCA and in the US BSA. Sometimes when you have certain partnerships with other MTOs in this jurisdiction, it doesn’t keep up because there is that difference. The risk when it comes to businesses is knowing what you want to do. For instance, how can we work to create an effective program and how can we implement this program in a way where it protects us, our service, customers and clients. What I always would put in first is, why do you want to have a risk assessment on your operations. You need to know the first thing that you want to achieve, and that is to detect and prevent your system or your company from money launderers in any way as they always find ways of looking after our abilities, and then using that, to aid our own needs.

What is digital ID? Why is digital ID necessary? How does it impact KYC and AML?

Richard: It’s different now from what it will be. In practical terms, digital identity at the moment is an idea which has been delivered in a few countries, but it’s not global. We’re certainly not at that point where it’s making any difference whatsoever to AML and KYC processes. At the moment in terms of the landscape for digital ID, the processes are delivered in slightly different ways in different countries. Digital ID at the moment essentially means confirming proof of ID proof and address.

At GBG we ran a survey on this a year ago, in which we found for most people that means something like presenting a driving license or a passport. In 10 years we can expect the process to be the same but using a mobile phone number, and email address and a biometric and the biometric that was typically used in that process at the moment is a Face.

Particularly looking around AML Compliance, what are we seeing in Pakistan and the Middle East region?

Imad: We are seeing two major aspects that are creating an impact. One is that ever since this pandemic started, there is a drastic change in customer behaviour. From Pakistan’s perspective, the regulatory estimates that the formal and informal remittance channels are somewhere between $40 to $60 billion. This huge gap between the two channels is what MTOs, regulators and banks have been trying desperately for the past many years to somehow move informal remittances towards formal channels by offering incentives.

The second thing that we are seeing happening is that with the rise of fintech, banks are being challenged significantly. In our understanding MTOs ability to improvise and innovate is much faster than any conventional traditional bank possibly due to the kind of environment that banks are in. The key difference is that banks are compliance and risk driven. So, they will not act upon anything unless they have full assurance from their compliance and risk that everything is by book. As opposed to MTOs and fintechs’ who are very customer-driven.

What is being done to help the clients face literacy in terms of the technological side?

Imad: We feel that changing our customer behaviour goes hand in hand with the motivation, why would customers want to use something new or something different than what they have been using in the past. We have been using different incentives, some incentives are being offered in partnership with the government so there are a lot of lucrative subsidies that the government is providing not just to MTOs but also the customer.

Are E-wallets big in Asia or is that something that’s catching on?

Imad: Two things have revolutionized the financial industry. One is the rise of E-wallets. And the second is biometric verification. So now the whole population adult option is biometric verified, and there are roughly 45 million registered mobile accounts in Pakistan right now from a population of 120 million with an adult population of 70 to 80 million. You can see that compared with 15 or 16 million bank customers mobile wallet density is much wider.

How can regulators balance evoking trust for consumers whilst avoiding stiffening innovation in the industry?

Gabrielle: Well, regulators are awakening key innovations in the industry, and also carrying improvements. We can see some cases where a new regulation comes out it gives new ideas and birth to new technological innovation that comes forward. People are beginning to try different things.

Would you say stakeholders like the Central Bank in the remittance industry have also invested heavily into tech as MTOs and Fintechs have?

Gabrielle: I won’t say they have all adopted the whole culture of being completely Technological. If banks have I don’t think we’ll have many issues and it’s just a case of plugging your API. I think everybody it’s still in the process.

Oussama: I think that’s one thing I look forward to in the future, while things become more centralized and people become open to APIs, it would be just easier to connect everyone. And again, pass information through. So rather than you need to report to the authority every month, your system will simply push that information through overnight. It removes that human error or a part of it. Again, they only have access to that part of the system that they need the information on to see velocity checks and things like that. It’s a positive thing to at least hear that, particularly in your region they understand that technology is the way to go.

What are the individual different tools within IDV?

Richard: Identity verification Traditionally meant physically, or physically looking at a proof of ID in a proof of address document. Lots of businesses will still do that whole face-to-face verification. COVID has changed that landscape. If you think about IDV it’s the process of checking, providing proof of address, and digitising that has delivered two core pieces of technology. Confirming someone lives at their address has traditionally been the quickest way to run this process.

However, it only works if the source of data confirming that someone lives at their address is good, if the data isn’t any good there’s not much point in trying to use that data. All the new technology is around proving identity by using an identity document but also proven to look at as part of that process

Imad: We are developing some data-driven decision tools for making real-time AML decisions, and we are making some tools for real-time customer profiling aggregation of data. We are interestingly working on face verification, and voice biometrics, this is especially important for countries like Pakistan where the infrastructure is not good, the more you go outside urban areas infrastructure is dependent on telecom services.

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Video: The Rise of Digital Remittances – How to capitalise?

The panel consisted of experts from both RemitONE and our friends and partners in other global companies. In case you missed the discussion, here is a summary of the key insights.

Webinar moderator:

Oussama Kseibati, Associate Sales Director, RemitONE

Panellists:

Richard Arundel, Chief Evangelist & Co-Founder of Currencycloud
Assad Alawneh, Owner at Alawneh Exchange
Luke Flomo, CRO of Vyne Payments
Walter D’Cruz, CEO of Moneo Solutions

We have seen a drastic change in the payments industry in the last five to six years, especially in E-payments or wallet payments. In your view, what have been the main developments in the industry. Do you think these developments are to stay? And is the growth of digital payments sustainable post-COVID.

Richard: There’s a lot to unpack in that question. And you’re right, there’s been a load of change over the last five or six years in the payments industry. Firstly, we’ve seen huge advances in core technology. And, in particular, customer trust in this technology. We’ve seen, especially in the MTO and the remittance space, a rapid rise in digital-first MTOs, which has driven more established MTOs to respond by rapidly introducing some conditional initiation funding capabilities. Nearly a third of incumbent remittance companies have now become digital. And the pandemic has obviously accelerated the kind of these digital trends.

I think, on the technology side, more and more of these products and services delivered by technology and accessible by API’s so the menu that remittance companies can choose from has just gotten bigger and easier to read. In terms of mobile banking, as well, mobile apps and mobile banking downloads are going up 50% year on year, and people are preferring this digital method.

Another area where I’ve seen a huge change in development is customer expectation. There was already a rise pre-pandemic as a digital company, but you add on the impact of COVID and this heightened digital expectation and we’ve seen a huge shift to digital products. And it’s driven these traditionally non-digital companies to think much more digitally. So, there’s this new age of competition.

What new technological advances are now being utilized in the digital remittance industry, particularly in your area or space?

Assad: I’d like to talk about the main elements of the technology, which is considered API. I think that the development of the API’s makes significant changes to the industry and to how we connect with partners – we connect with other services and provide the services in a different way. API’s are now a key driver for FinTech and for the payments industry. Without the API’s we wouldn’t be able to provide digital payments or even mobile applications, or payments through the mobile application, sending and receiving the remittances through the API or through the mobile application.

I think as well, this will increase the volume of the transaction because I think FinTech companies, now, their main development they have is the API because they can connect to any other service providers in the industry. Through the API’s, we can even improve the customer journey with the service. So, we have been able to provide payments through them with the application because we are able to connect to payments because if you want to provide a mobile application, for example, to send my resume by application, you need a way to pay for the transaction through your bank account or via the debit card. So again, this is connected through the API’s, and this technology as well.

Where does open banking fit into all of this? How does it work? What are the benefits for money transfer businesses?

Luke: The UK open banking framework that’s been created has helped in many respects, and gained access to payments infrastructure. But I think one of the key problems is the fact that the banks today aren’t incentivized to open up their back end in terms of all that information and data, because they’ve spent years and years capturing it. And now essentially, PSD two, as stipulated, they need to now open up all that data for free. And I think one of the big points that we need to work with these organizations from a FinTech perspective across the board is how do we help them to monetize that data to a certain extent, and how do we then consume it in a really accessible way, that means that we can reduce friction for a consumer.

I think one interesting fact is that about 80% of the UK population have now got a smartphone and about 78% of adults are now digitally banked, and 14 million of them have got a digital-only bank account. So, there’s a real demand for this as a utilization of payment infrastructure. Many of you may be aware that open banking hit the 5 million consumer mark. So, consumers are utilizing this type of technology on a day-to-day basis. It’s now up to us in our costs across the globe to start allowing consumers to utilize this payment method in all the different use cases and scenarios.

How can employers leverage technology to expand their networks without necessarily having a presence in that country?

Richard: I think, firstly, if you’re looking at expanding your network, one way to do that is expanding the number of kinds of pay-out corridors or countries you can send money to, which ultimately expands your user base within the country that you’re working in. The second way you can do that is maybe looking at collections as well as payments, for example, we talked earlier about the current rise of e-payments or e-wallets. And thirdly, partnering with companies who can use technology to leverage their licenses and the compliance and their regulation, which enables you to expand on a global basis without necessarily having a presence in the country.

How can crypto and blockchain assist NGOs in facilitating cross border payments?

Walter: Firstly, I sat and watched the first panel today, the first session on digitalization and, you know, a lot of that crossed over to what we’ve been talking about today, which leads me to believe that actually it’s not about crypto and blockchain assisting MTOs, it’s about how they’re going to migrate into the digital world. And blockchain is just one technology platform that will support that move.

However, in today’s world, the cost of compliance is getting higher and higher. And that’s where I see crypto coming into it, in terms of reducing that cost of compliance. In actual fact, the cost of sending money or moving value is going to get cheaper and cheaper, yet the cost of compliance is going up. So that’s where blockchain can assist, it’s not so much in the transfer of value, because it’s a currency right? The value is whatever the market perceives to be. What can you include in that blockchain that will enable better compliance, better transparency, and therefore fewer people or humans touching it, therefore driving your costs up?

Oussama: I think one of the issues with Bitcoin was people are not using it as all it was built for – as a currency. Now it’s obviously more of an investment. And that’s where we see the volatility of it and of course, what’s happened. If crypto is pegged to a fiat currency, then absolutely. But then we get into the question of regulation; is there enough regulation? Is there going to be more regulation? Is it going to help people bypass some sanctions?

What are the critical questions when evaluating a payments vendor gateway provider that we should be asking?

Luke: It really depends on what you’re trying to achieve. In essence, I think most organizations are looking to acquire new consumers, retain existing consumers and make life as simple and as easy as possible for both the consumer and themselves in terms of working practices and UX and UI. So, I think the key thing you should be thinking about or contemplating when looking at a payment gateway and acquiring a vendor or an alternative payment method is where am I operating? Where are my consumers based? And can that organization support me in those specific territories, either with local payment knowledge, insights, data, as well as connectivity? If you’re operating outside of the UK, there are other alternative payment methods to the likes of credit cards, debit cards, and e-wallets, and there are specifically wallets and payment methods in certain territories.

So we know that regulation is one of the biggest challenges in the industry, what new tech is out there to overcome these challenges? Specifically focusing on fraud as being one of the biggest challenges.

Assad: I think for the regulator how do you identify the customer, and if you go back to the rational way where the customer will come to you and present his ID and you can see him in front of you face-to-face, and then you can know this customer is the one dealing with you. And when it comes to digital payments and online payments you have to identify the customer digitally. In order to identify your customer online and have the data available, you can verify the ID verification, you can do it online.

Now, we can do video conferencing, and you can do even voice authentication in order to identify your customer. There are also companies providing the service – again, without the API’s, you will not be able to do this online verification and online customer KYC. Regarding fraud detection, I know they’ve been using big data optimized to analyze the fraud as well. I think artificial intelligence as well as is being used to identify fraud just from legitimate transactions for legitimate customers as well. As I said the video conference can take a live selfie in order to make sure that this person is the same person. So, there’s also technology now helping us to identify customers and again, to be compliant with the regulators and to avoid fraud as well.

Oussama: In terms of regulation and transaction marginal what’s interesting is it depends on which region you’re in. But what also looks quite interesting are the steps that each region has been taking or will have not been taking. As an example, in Jordan, they don’t request any particular reports, they just request if there have been any suspicious activities. Whereas on the other hand, I know that the FCA in the UK do request a specific report and it has to be at those specific intervals. Furthermore, in Dubai, they’re coming up with lots of new regulations, but they again asked for specific reports in specific formats.

Additionally, with AusTrack, the regulatory body for Australia that we’ve built into our system, now produces the AusTrack report and posts it straight to their website. I think it’s quite good because they’ve made those APIs available, so they’re trying to make compliance a little bit more attainable. And again, getting that information directly from the MTO themselves by being able to post that. I just think it’s a much neater way and it opened up the market for people because if they’re abiding by these regulations, that’s fine. So that was what was supposed to happen with PSD two, everyone’s supposed to abide by PSD two, and the banking was supposed to open up for everyone, which unfortunately didn’t happen.

What does the future look like? Will cryptocurrencies replace major hard currencies in international payments?

Walter: I don’t know what the future looks like. No, it changes every moment. But certainly, in certain corridors, crypto or digital currencies will replace hard currencies for international payments or remittances. Whether it be central bank-issued digital currencies, or the likes of Bitcoin, or some specific tethered or stable coin, a token program, most definitely.

But, I think it’s inevitable. It’s going digital and you can’t stop that. I think the big challenge is it isn’t going to replace hard cash in the High Street, no chance. Certainly not in the developing countries where cash is still a big, big way of paying and exchanging goods and services. That’s not going to replace cash, but certainly in developed nations like Europe and the UK.

Richard: I think the underlying technology is really interesting. I also think it depends on time horizons. In the last few years, maybe crypto has been a solution looking for a problem. I think it’s about time now that certain cryptocurrencies or blockchain technology go more mainstream. And you’re going to see more applications for it. And I think there are definitely solutions out there that can use a blockchain-driven solution, whatever crypto or stable coin that might be.

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Video: The International Money Transfer Market – Challenges, trends and opportunities

Continuing our recent discussions exploring the evolution of the remittance sector, RemitONE hosted their IPR EMEA event on 2-3 March 2022. The 90-minute panel session centred around the enormous rate of change over the last few years in the money transfer market, resulting in new technology, higher customer expectations and endless opportunities for MTOs.

The panel consisted of experts from both RemitONE and our friends and partners in other global companies. In case you missed the discussion, here is a summary of the key insights.

Webinar moderator:

Aamer Abedi, RemitONE

Panellists:

Elizabeth Rossiello, CEO & Founder of AZA Finance
Hasan Fardan Al Fardan, CEO at Al Fardan Exchange
Leon Isaacs, CEO & Founder of DMA Global
Alex Orechoff, Financial Services Vertical Growth at Worldpay from FIS

The World Bank reported remittance flows grew by 7% in 21, and declined by only 1.7% in 2020. This is despite the severe global recession caused by COVID-19. What factors do you think have contributed to this growth?

Leon: The first point in the question is about the resilience of remittances. The people who are sending remittances need to send money and to support them both with consumption and investment needs. And that need doesn’t just disappear. In fact, it probably increased during COVID times, as families back home, found it even harder. So it really meant that people who were sending money were even more committed to finding ways to do it.

One of the key things is the changing ways in which money was able to move. So the shift to digital has clearly had quite an impact. And now every company that makes any pronouncement on remittances, is always talking about their digital strategy, how that’s making a change in what they’re doing. And I think this focus has really helped to actually bring more some more people to the market.

Hasan: I very much echo and agree with a lot of the sentiments obviously, you know, the market that we predominantly serve is the second-largest market in the world. And obviously, the organisations that had a higher degree of digital preparedness, I know people talk about transformation, it’s a big buzzword. But ultimately, it needs to translate to some degree of digital preparedness – companies that were definitely much better prepared, and benefited from drastically converting traditional cash business into a digital business.

The biggest risk with a sector is the lack of regulatory oversight, and you don’t have the benefit of robust KYC, AML, and general compliance framework, so something that we’re definitely addressing at the industry level.

Alex: What Leon was mentioning as well, is that a lot of what has happened, thanks to COVID is that people have been introduced to new digital options, and that has forced companies to really innovate quickly and offer a lot of different avenues that people were not necessarily curious about before. It hasn’t been the best onboarding experience for people, because we’ve been just trying to get everything online for our partners as quickly as possible. And it’s not necessarily the most efficient.

Elizabeth: We process for over 28 of the largest remittance companies out of and across the African continent. And already six years ago, one of our fastest-growing operators launched a corridor into Nigeria, digital-only, and it was the fastest-growing product they’d ever launched. Before that, they were a cash-only agent collection remittance company, mainly out of North America.

So for me, I don’t know why we even use the word digital, because it’s what is remittance without digital at this point? And what are financial services without digital? So, you know, we don’t even think, to work with companies that don’t have a digital offering. It’s like saying, “what is digital banking?”, everything is digital these days. And we need to go beyond that. It’s not just how to get things digitised, it’s how to streamline operations and optimise in a world that’s so fast-moving.

From a technology solutions perspective, there is literally a 100% shift to digital. But is it still fair to say that there is still a lot of emphasis on cash? How do we reconcile the two comments here?

Elizabeth: Well, first of all, even cash networks use digital verification networks. I mean, nobody picks up cash with a paper slip anymore. Nobody goes really into the bank with a printed out terminal, you’re getting a mobile code on your phone, and then you’re going to the cash agent network. And the cash agent network is dominated by mobile treasury and float operations that are digitised. And if they’re not, they’re not going to work.

So I think the companies that aren’t thinking about that, from a user perspective, from a mobile perspective, are missing out. And again, it’s not just the app, it’s also the cash management, the operations, the treasury management.

What is it like in the UAE? Do you have some data to share about this channel cannibalisation from cash to digital? Is it supporting what others are saying?

Hasan: Now there’s a very large uptake and a very large migration from traditional cash to digital and the rate of growth is very aggressive. However, cash is still very much dominant, from numbers that I have seen still around 70-80% of the market is still operating on a cash basis and it’s not necessarily because of the lack of availability of digital solutions or digital touchpoints. As an organisation and I think as an industry as well we hear a lot of emphasis on digitally-driven financial inclusion, but digital inclusion doesn’t mean that you exclude the cash customers as well.

So the future is definitely digital and the migration is definitely much higher and it will continue to accelerate in the coming years, but I still see it being relevant in the medium term.

Aamer: So you have regulatory pressures, of course, for example in the UK and Europe there is a lot of pressure to go digital. So if you’re a cash-based business the regulator just makes the landscape really hard for you to operate. The companies that collect cash from the agent shops etc are dominated by a single player which doesn’t make it conducive for other participants to participate in a fair manner.

Based on the research data that you have access to, is there a market out there where the consumers are refusing to go digital and want to carry on using cash? I know there are a few regions that showed a lot of reluctance.

Leon: I think that it depends on which region of the world as to how fast it gets there and I also think it depends on your time horizon. Some parts of the world have been going 10 years or more using various digital services and the benefits to the users are normally so self-evident you do wonder why people don’t change, but there are a lot of cultural and historical factors.

Also, we have to remember a lot of people in the world have come from countries where they haven’t necessarily had significant amounts of money themselves and also, they haven’t trusted governments or local banks – they think governments may have influence over banks or banks have collapsed and so. There’s still a generation out there that has deep mistrust in anything that’s not physically in their hands or in somebody else’s.

When cash is still king for domestic payments, it is very difficult to then accelerate international payments to make a real dent. So what we need to do is continue to encourage domestic adoption and then the international will flow much more easily.

Alex: What it pulls down to are habits and trust. Anything you have to change a habit is a point of friction, it’s not something that you want to do or you feel comfortable doing, even if all the logic says that you should be doing this new habit. It’s just human nature. So if you’re using cash most of the time chances are you’re going to prefer to do cash in this transaction, and you have to have a really good catalyst to push you off that previous habit in preference.

Aamer: So basically, the panel of experts here feels that the statement ‘cash is king’ is an overstatement. The rate of transitioning that’s happening right now from cash to digital is happening at a pace we hadn’t imagined, it’s so rapid. One of the big three players, I think close to 30/35% of their total remittance volume is digital. Contrast this to 3 years ago when I was in one of the conferences, digital was over 5%. So over a period of three years, one of the big three players’ digital remittances have increased from 5 to 30% which is significant.

From a payments industry perspective, what do you think is coming next?

Alex: One thing is how do we make a frictionless experience for customers and how do we enable that? How do we enable people to grow quickly into the corridors that they want to be in? And how do you ensure that you can have a real-time treasury in the future? Because that’s obviously one of the biggest challenges that a lot of remittance companies have today.

We’ll definitely see greater use of cryptocurrency and CBDCs, but thankfully that’s a ‘future us’ problem – I would say that’s more of a 5/10-year pursuit, depending on where the various central banks are going, in which case we are going to have to think about what are the other things we offer to expand our breadth of products and to add more value to our various customers on the side of paying in but also on the side of paying out.

Can you just define ‘Super App’ and then we can discuss what we mean by this all-encompassing mobile app?

Aamer: There’s a new buzzword we’re hearing ‘Super Apps’. I was in Saudi Arabia a few months ago and I was using one of these taxi services like Uber, Kareem, Bolt. One of them was offering something interesting – they were offering on the app the ability for someone to order a nurse and they would send a nurse within 24 hours to do a Covid test or a PCR test etc. and this is all happening from that one ‘Super App’ if you will, and that’s the buzzword here in our industry.

A lot of these new companies from neighbouring verticals/peripheral industries have an established customer base and they are always thinking of generating revenue from new sources and remittance becomes the obvious choice. It’s a case of APIs. The API these days, from technology vendors especially, are so sophisticated that it’s just a case of plug-and-play. So if you have an existing app you can simply plug into RemitONE’s API and take advantage of the services they have through the API so there’s not much work to do.

Alex: That’s where you’ll see that as a key thing and it also happens to be because you trust the brand that is all-encompassing on that ‘Super App’ – we trust Kareem because it gets us from point A to B and therefore anyone they’re selecting is probably going to be trusted as a result. So that’s the big benefit of the ‘Super App’ that you mentioned there.

Elizabeth: We’ve had digital ‘Super App’s for over 8 years over the African continent and AZA launched the first ‘Super App’ which went from just mobile money wallets to offering health services, government payments and even some banking services. It even had a white label for banks to use as well and what we saw was a real success for services that were adjacent to its core business, but services that were too far off like the medical services ended up being replaced by companies focusing on that.

So for companies that are coming from the traditional brick and mortar space, they’re facing even more of a challenge for them to launch something so agile. What we also recommend for customers that want a white label is to work with companies that know what they’re doing like RemitONE. They have a great product it’s a white label product but maybe think about devoting a team to just doing that.

What obstacles or challenges do you see along the horizon what do MTOs or exchange houses in the money transfer space need to prepare for now?

Leon: One of the obstacles is if you’re not doing a fully digital solution now then either you’re too late or you need to do something immediately – you’re probably too late, but if you’re not doing anything that’s probably the biggest thing.

I think we also have big problems still with de-risking. I know we’ve probably been talking about this at conferences since at least 2012 if not before and I think it just rears its head in a different form.

It’s one thing of course to say that we want to go digital but actually doing the transition is a challenge in itself. As a very successful organisation in the Middle East, what are your thoughts on this? What are the typical challenges an MTO would face as it transitions?

Hasan: You have to start from the perspective of the UX and I echo some of the comments from my colleagues here, provided you can deliver a seamless customer journey generally that really is the basis of transitioning your customer base. I would say players have different degrees of success, of how well they can execute that. You are seeing an environment of offline margin, you are seeing an environment of increasing compliance costs so really only the highly compliant and highly competitive and highly agile businesses will continue to succeed.

Who do you see winning the ‘Super App’ versus Marketplace battle when it comes to accessing financial services?

Alex: It’s going to depend on what other aspects of the market we’re talking about, so there are going to be situations where the ‘Super App’ is going to be preferred – either because that is the place where there’s the brand and the trust. Or that that’s where they’re getting other services that they prefer to use because it’s all of them in one place. It’s easier to just accept that I’m going to have a higher price or that I trust I’m going to have a better price for my remittance through the ‘Super App’.

Elizabeth: I think the marketplace where you’re going online is not something that the younger segments are using so we’re not seeing that inherent in the youth population, so I think customer segments are pretty split depending on age and just digital nativeness.

Leon: I think it ultimately comes down to who owns the customer and if you’ve got the right product. I would tend to lead towards a ‘Super App’ having more to offer than a Marketplace by definition, unless you actually own the customer accessing that Marketplace then you’re going to be challenged.

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IPR EMEA Online 2022: On-Demand

Don’t miss a moment. Catch up with all the previously aired content from Innovation in Payments & Remittances EMEA 2022.

The International Money Transfer Market: Challenges, trends and opportunities

Le marché international du transfert d’argent: défis, tendances et opportunités.

The Rise of Digital Remittances: How to capitalise?

Compliance and AML for Money Transfers: Everything you need to know

Better Together: The cross-border remittance ecosystem

Mobile Payments and Remittances: Understanding the impact and the opportunities

Online Event: Innovation in Payments and Remittances 2022 – Europe, Middle East and Africa

On-demand webinar | Payments and Remittances Post-Covid

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Video: New Tech in an Old Business – The new products redefining the best in class.

Continuing our recent discussions exploring some of the challenges and opportunities being faced by the remittance sector in these uncertain times, RemitONE hosted a webinar on the 23rd of June 2021 regarding the new products that are currently redefining best in class practices and the technology that drives them. The panel was made up of experts from both RemitONE and our friends and partners in other global companies. In case you missed the webinar, here is a summary of the key insights.

Webinar moderator:

Oussama Kseibati, Head of Services at RemitONE

Panellists:

Walter D’Cruz, Director at Moneo Solutions and CEO at Livil Ltd
Stone Atwine, Founder at CEO at Eversend
Nelson Irizarry, Co-Founder and Chief Operating Officer at Paykii

What new technological advancements are now being utilised in the traditional remittance industry?

Walter: I was really looking forward to answering this one because I believe a lot of technological advancement is being driven by external forces like the regulators, banking partners and the market. For me, it’s about who adopts the technology faster and the technology I’m talking about specifically is regulatory technology like ID verification, KYC transaction monitoring, open banking, instant payments, digital payments, digital banking, artificial intelligence and, of course, blockchain. For me, those are the main drivers. The challenges companies are facing, however, largely stem from the ever-evolving beast that is compliance and the costs associated with it. A lot of fin-techs out there are reducing that cost whilst providing excellent services and as we move through this new environment, traditional remittance companies are going to have to play a big game of catch-up.

We know that regulation and fraud are the biggest challenges in the industry. What new tech is out there to overcome these challenges?

Stone: Regulation is a big pain, especially for those of us trying to upgrade across multiple countries on the African continent. Being a new-age player, we tried to do everything electronically and what we’ve seen in the software we use for everything from onboarding and compliance to KYC and anti-money laundering is that there are some major advantages the traditional players might not have noticed. For example, it helps us with integration and analytics so you can figure out if you’ve got 30 thousand or 50 thousand customers and how many of those customers did KYCs. In terms of fraud, we’re seeing many interesting solutions too. We’ve built a tonne of fields internally in Eversend alongside a new technology that allows you to spot potential fraudsters from their email address, phone number or even the gadget they’re using across different applications. I think the thing that really changes the game though is the ability to do all the required KYC diligence remotely without actually being close to the customer. We’ve seen improvements in liveness checks, for example, so that when somebody signs up on their telephone you can take a short video selfie and the technology now can figure out if this person is who they say they are.

Oussama: It’s also about customer experience; the better we have these solutions in place, the quicker it is for you to onboard someone not needing to be there. So they are on their mobile phone and take their picture and all the checks are done instantly so you can onboard them right there and then.

What have traditional remittance companies had to do differently as a result of this new technology?

Walter: You can’t replace a physical asset like cash; you have to go through to the digital world which offers a simple way of banking and topping it up with cash. Look at some of the challenger banks like OneZone where you can top up to £300 or £500 a month in cash. You go to a top-up agent, put your money in and it’s in your account within minutes. The cash economy is working right now still because there are older generations looking at crypto and digital currencies right now the way generations before looked at credit cards – with nothing but disbelief and trepidation. But there will come a time when cards are replaced by instant payment and there needs to be a roadmap in place to help these customers understand the new normal.

How do you see the utility bills payment sector in relationship with the MSB space, post-pandemic?

Nelson: Everyone has bills to pay. You’re talking about 40 billion payments a year based on households around the world and that’s just looking at basic utility services. Anywhere between 20% to 30% of funds that are being sent by remittance are being used specifically for bill payment services. I think the question we have to ask is who’s going to pay for it? Is it the sender or the recipient? From PayKii’s perspective, we actually play both sides of it. Our platform is a global digital platform with one API integration and we offer both domestic and cross border services in over 30 countries. But cross border bill payment is really our bread and butter. Because people want the ability to pay bills directly back home, either for control, security or peace of mind. There are three key challenges with bill paying in a cross-border context. The first one is awareness as most individuals do not know they can pay bills back in their home countries for themselves or for their loved ones. The second is commitment, which involves getting them to understand what is the value or bill payment by creating a more holistic view of managing the customer. The third challenge is regulatory fees but it’s slightly different from the regulatory challenge you’ll face in the money transfer world due to how different countries regulate bill payments.

Do you consider that the new adoption of technologies like blockchain may play a major role in both regions or are they typically regional focused?

Walter: I think they are going to be very regionally focused. If you look at Africa, there are certain countries where there’s been significant adoption of crypto often relating to their existing currency. In Nigeria, for example, example, there’s been 80% adoption. So it’s not about boiling the ocean here we have to really focus on corridors and where there’s a supporting regulatory framework. As far as blockchain is concerned, I think blockchain means so many different things to so many people and it’s often misinterpreted or misrepresented. For me the application of blockchain is not just about the value of an asset or funds; it is a complete 3D picture that you can build around a transaction.

Do you think that Cryptocurrencies can be a solution to solve settlement problems for intra-Africa cross-border remittances?

Stone: At Eversend we’re already using stable coins to move value across different studios based in different African countries. You really need to move values pretty quickly, especially if you aren’t going to have tens of millions tucked away in capital across different markets. We’re doing this internally though, so the customer doesn’t actually see anything to do with crypto or stable coins but we use them amongst ourselves to make sure that everything balances out in different countries. For these solutions to work we need modern systems as with old systems you’d have to use US transfer, which would take 3 to 5 days. That means we can reduce the amount of capital we need just by using this almost instant system of stable coins. I see the future of remittances going into stable coins, at least in the short term.

Customer loyalty can be a challenge in the remittance space. What new products and technologies should MSB’s consider to strengthen their relationship with the end-user?

Nelson: I’m not an expert in remittance space and I certainly can’t predict the future but what I will say is that where before you tended to have a lot of companies that were specifically focused on remittance, over the past few years fintechs have broadened everyone’s horizons. They have forced everyone to look at remittances in a slightly different way. So, the question is, what can dedicated remittance companies do to retain customers when the dynamics of the industry have changed so much and so rapidly? I think the first thing is to look at the customer holistically and ask how you can best manage that person’s financial health. Beyond helping them send money home, what else of value can you provide to help them manage their financial health?

Stone: We’re doing a lot of things internally around retention and one of those things comes back to little everyday payments. The idea is that to keep people coming back you give them the ability to quickly buy something like phone credit and bundle that in with a lot of other relevant financial services, giving them more value and more reason to stay. We also have a measure we call the “care factor” and this is essentially a measurement of the virility of our app through people telling their friends about Eversend. We try to ensure that every user is going to lead us to at least one other new user and this is done with the incentive of referral rewards so the inviter and the invitee both get a small amount of money when the invited person becomes a paying customer. We’re essentially giving our marketing budget directly to our consumers and it seems to be working.

We also know that bank de-risking is a major challenge for many businesses. What technological innovations exist to overcome this challenge?

Walter: You can’t really overcome the challenge of having a physical connection to a bank. No tech can achieve that. However, regulatory technology can de-risk your relationship with the bank by staying ahead of the game. Unfortunately, you’re never going to avoid de-risking until money businesses fully get behind PSD2, which for some reason they still seem quite reluctant to do. All you can really do is manage your volumes and cultivate banking relationships specific to the vertical markets you are going to operate in. Because certain banks will have the systems in place to focus on a certain corridor, whereas other general banks may not. The major challenge for banks is that they are typically rendered moribund by legacy systems – old IBM apps that they developed in the 70’s and 80’s that are still running some of their core business applications. So for them to adopt newer technology is very difficult because it doesn’t fit into their workflow. That’s where fintechs comes into the equation because we know what we’re doing with new technology. The problem, however, is that fintechs lack the trust of established banks and this is something that’s going to require greater collaboration. Until that happens, de-risking is just going to be a matter of doubling up, or tripling up, or spending a lot more effort in managing your relationships. But certainly being ahead of the game in terms of compliance and KYC gives you a big advantage.

We have seen the rise of everything from blockchain to instant payments and mobile money in recent years. But what changes are we going to experience in the next five or ten years?

Stone: What I see as the future of remittances and finance as a whole is some kind of central location from which somebody can get all of their financial service needs met. So if you’re sitting in a cafe in Paris and have to pay your grandmother’s electricity bill in Uganda, the platform that you use should be the same platform from which you pay your Amazon or Netflix bill. What we are seeing is that amalgamation of financial services I think that’s really going to be the future – all in one, borderless apps. You want to be able to offer more than just remittances, you want an app somebody can use to trade stocks and crypto and send money back home. The more touchpoints, the better!

Do you think the current regulatory frameworks welcome or stifle new technological innovations in the industry?

Nelson: Part of the issue is that regulators have bigger fish to fry and they rarely make the rules of the game clear, so to speak. So it poses a challenge for us depending on where the client is located and operating. Bill paying is a small ticket item that I think most regulators just haven’t thought about, which leaves us specifically in a rare position where we can move ahead but we have to do so cautiously as we can never be 100% sure if or when the regulators will suddenly decide we’re a concern. When you want to make sure you are crossing your t’s and dotting your i’s, it’s hard when that’s not the primary focus of the regulators themselves. But I guess that allows wiggle room for playing around, testing boundaries and seeing what works. And as always, working with consultants who are very good in the remittance space can make sure you understand the stadium that you’re playing in, if not the game itself.

Walter: It honestly depends on where you are as there’s no such thing as consistency. You’ve all no doubt seen the recent events in China and the impact that has had on the price of crypto. The biggest impact on the market in terms of innovation is going to be the introduction of central bank digital currencies because in a way that’s going to really legitimise their use. Then of course you have open banking, which is definitely going to happen on a wider scale. I think the advent of digital currencies will push open banking. They go hand in hand, after all.

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Video: Trust vs Innovation – Finding the regulatory balance for a stronger Money Transfer sector

Continuing our recent discussions exploring some of the challenges and opportunities being faced by the remittance sector in these uncertain times, RemitONE hosted a webinar on the 24th of June 2021 regarding trust vs innovation in the money transfer sector and finding a strong regulatory balance. The panel was made up of experts from both RemitONE and our friends and partners in other global companies. In case you missed the webinar, here is a summary of the key insights.

Webinar moderator:

Aamer Abedi, CMO, RemitONE

Panellists:

Ibrahim Muhammad, Payments Consultant, RemitONE
Kathy Tomasofsky, Executive Director, MSBA
Farook Al-Jibouri, Founder and Executive Director, Cyber Code Technologies

The financial services sector has always been one of the most heavily regulated industries but what are the key compliance regulations and challenges that we commonly see across all jurisdictions?

Kathy Tomasofsky: I would say that one of the most important things we see across all jurisdictions is rules concerning your customer (KYC). They may vary in different areas in terms of the level of detail, but all of the regulations ask for the companies to know their customers to prevent money laundering. The second area is risk management. As you enter into the business, understanding your customer profile, understanding the risks, and setting up the appropriate controls in order to effectively do business.

Ibrahim Muhammad: In terms of the ongoing situation; the pandemic had led to a lot of changes and this has pushed regulatory bodies into leaning more towards digital. However, in some markets, people might not have been able to adapt due to lack of infrastructure, so there have certainly been challenges. Broadly speaking, in terms of common regulations we can put it into two baskets: One is the AML (Anti-Money Laundering) and the other is the compacting of terrorist financing. In both these instances and in all jurisdictions, it always comes down to KYC, transaction monitoring and sanction screening.

Farook Al-Jibouri: Particularly when it comes to the Middle East, we do share the same difficulties globally but there are other unfortunate issues and circumstances unique to the region. What I see after the pandemic is a greater diversity when it comes to the Middle East and the level of maturity in the adoption of transformative financial services like Fintech. Some countries have been eager to jump on board but others are still living a hundred years in the past. Still, it’s a cash market where regulators have minimal impact when it comes to controlling the environment. This is what’s driving different regulators in the region to adopt more of a regional approach. The Middle East is ultimately a hot spot when it comes to AML and anti-terrorism. In fact, we are very much leading the way in those areas. The challenge, however, is in how you control different regions and balance them equivalently when there is such disparity in terms of digital adoption.

Is it fair to say that regulators are all for innovation in the Middle East? And is it also fair to say they are taking a lot of inspiration from UK and European regulators?

Farook Al-Jibouri: That’s a complicated question that I couldn’t really give one straight answer to. As I already said, the level of diversity in the Middle East is enormous. There is, however, global pressure from other regulators to bring all of the countries up to the same level and in some cases, those local regulators are simply not doing their jobs. Political complications are slowing the adoption of digital in some situations too. Again, it depends on the specific region. In Saudi Arabia, for example, it was announced recently that the first completely digital bank has been officially licensed by regulators.

Aamer Abedi: I know that when it comes to supporting Fintech start-ups, there is a lot of government support for these businesses in the UAE and Saudi Arabia. Is it fair to say that regulators from the UAE and Saudi Arabia are helping to lead the way in terms of pushing innovation? Perhaps. I believe they are also taking a lot of inspiration from European and UK regulators.

Kathy Tomasofsky: While the Middle East may have different regions that are working at different levels, here in the United States we have forty-nine different entities within a federal regulation and it’s very difficult to navigate. It’s a complex structure and it varies from state to state. For example, the state of Wyoming is very friendly to blockchain and virtual currency but you’re not going to see that in every state.

How far are we from the ubiquitous federal money service license like you have in Europe in the US or the Middle East?

Kathy Tomasofsky: As far as the US is concerned, I’ll answer that question in two parts: The first part is that over the last two years, there have been some movements towards harmonising on a single license. There are currently twenty-nine states that have bonded together. So, if you’re a start-up company and you come into the states, you can have what’s called your level one documents; your financial statements and business plan. These will then be reviewed by a particular assigned state and the twenty-nine other states will say “Okay, we’ll accept these” and it’s as simple as that. Also, we’ve been working with other regulators on harmonising the money transmission law. We expect to have a draft of that sometime this summer, so perhaps beginning in 2023, 2024, we may see a more uniform law.

Farook Al-Jibouri: In the Middle East it can go in different directions. In some countries, opening a bank is extremely easy and in others, you simply can’t do it because the number of banks versus the market has already been defined by regulations. If there is any kind of new license or sub-license, it would be given to the established banks. In other countries though, we are starting to see the licensing of newer digital banks.

How are we doing in terms of open banking in the UK, US and the Middle East?

Ibrahim Muhammad: It’s interesting to see how the US market operates across states. Now, with the UK of course, we’re following the PSD2 standard, and from there we now have open banking. We are enjoying the benefits of PSD2 and though we don’t have passporting rights in the EU we can still redo the applications since they follow the same regulations. So that makes it easier for companies in the UK who would like to expand into EU markets.

Kathy Tomasofsky: In the US, I would honestly say we’re not there yet. There are indirect discussions coming through but we’re not in those open banking discussions like the UK has at this point.

Do you feel that the money transfer industry always plays second fiddle to the payments industry?

Kathy Tomasofsky: I think the introduction of digital and Fintech has made the government more supportive of the whole idea of global payments, whether it’s consumer to consumer or business to business. The fact that remittances fall under that umbrella gives us that support. In general, though, I think it’s more that the banking industry is less inclined to be supportive. It’s very challenging for a company to get a bank account here. There are some things that passed this past January with regard to the strengthening of AML programs and some items there that may help as far as de-risking is concerned, but that remains our pain point here. During the pandemic, these remittance businesses really were a lifeline for many US constituents, and I think that that helped to strengthen the profile of the companies as well.

Post-Brexit, has the government’s stance changes towards the MSB sector? Are they viewing us differently now?

Ibrahim Muhammad: Not exactly, in fact, the FCA has been quite open to supporting innovation in this space and that’s why they were opening up to a lot of Fintechs and new players establishing themselves in the UK. So for the UK specifically I’d say the government has actually been quite supportive.

The concerns that regulators cite can often be addressed by technology. What areas of technology are there in the industry that ensure we meet compliance?

Ibrahim Muhammad: They look into different areas when it comes to transparency; they look into the complaint handling process, incident reporting and the overall system checks and controls you have in place. Of course, AML is one component, so when they do company assessments, they cover all those areas. This assures them of how transparent that entity is towards its customers.

Farook Al-Jibouri: In the past six to nine months there has been a wide deployment of technological systems all across the Middle East but one of the problems is the lack of data. Certain countries probably have a full database but others do not and when you don’t have that database you have to rebuild it. As far as compliance tool deployment is concerned, in some countries, AML is being deployed and pushed by certain regulators but with a specific mandate rather than certain standards. Adopting these systems is definitely going to help in reducing the bureaucracy in the process. Because using certain technologies such as AI and blockchain we can see compliance happening on the fly through automation, rather than being checked manually or via a certain bureaucratic process.

In terms of technology, the US is the most powerful nation on Earth. But when it comes to our payments industry, the US arguably can’t compare with Europe. Why is this the case?

Kathy Tomasofsky: In the US, each state has its own perspective on what’s the best way to serve the consumer. Also, in defense of the regulators, there are so many new kinds of companies and technologies they have to keep learning how to regulate properly. If you look at Bitcoin, for example, some states are regulating virtual currency and have specific laws on their books while others are covering it under general money transmission and some haven’t even taken a pass at it yet. Ultimately, we have lots of interesting products that are being developed and the regulators need to understand what they are, how they work, where is the money going, who holds it, and how to protect the consumers. Then there’s the fact that, at a big-tech level, both sides of the administration are sceptical of companies like Facebook and Google and what they will bring to the US.

Aamer Abedi: It’s not just scepticism at a government level, it’s the big banks too. I know Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase is very anti-Bitcoin. You can see these large investment banks being very anti-crypto, but I heard that some of these investment banks have already started preparing proposals for their own cryptocurrencies.

Facebook applied for a money transfer license in Spain a few years ago so you can now use WhatsApp to send money. You have companies like Apple and Google that have money transfer licenses and they’re operating under some sort of regulation. So, should our industry be worried?

Ibrahim Muhammad: The tech giants are definitely jumping into the remittance space and from what I see in the UK and the EU they will have a fight on their hands with the established players. Now, it depends on the approach the big techs take. They might acquire one of the large players and then enter into a partnership or it could be that they establish their own remittance identity since they have a huge customer base to draw from.

Kathy Tomasofsky: In the US I do think that, to some degree, we will see some of the smaller MTOs either disappear or merge with others due to the cost of compliance and licensing. But we’ve also seen in our market research that the selection by a consumer for a particular MTO is often done out of loyalty and is not just price based. I think we’ll see that with age, the younger consumer who’s grown up with technology will be that consumer who is more inclined to go to an Apple or Google Pay transmitter because they will feel a certain loyalty. Even here in the US, in traditional banking, we’re seeing that generation not having traditional bank accounts.

Farook Al-Jibouri: When it comes to the payments industry, what’s happening with the gigantic tech firms is very noticeable and not only in the US. If you look towards China, for example, WeChat predominantly controls the exchange of money over an instant message application and I do think that Facebook took the approach they did because of the success of WeChat. In the Middle East, we don’t have tech firms, but we do have telecom operators who know the technology, and those operators are actually very forward-thinking in terms of bringing those digital wallets and instant money transfers to their customers, particularly in parts of the region where they can get around regulations.

What do you think are the top compliance priorities in the post-pandemic age for any MSB?

Kathy Tomasofsky: In the post-pandemic age, we have seen such an increase here in the US in the remote work area. So security is a big compliance priority for us. We’ve seen specific states here in the US; New York and California, for example; where companies are required as part of their AML program to define what their security requirements are. We’ve seen an abundance of new phishing scams and email fraud here too, so that whole concept is important.

Ibrahim Muhammad: The top priority would be to keep things running steadily despite all the disruption. Because the pandemic has really given rise to something unprecedented. We all know has it has accelerated digital adoption. So, from a compliance perspective, I would say we need to keep pace and adapt to the latest technologies while ensuring that we cater to the needs of the people.

How do we build trust in the industry now, given where we are?

Farook Al-Jibouri: One of the things the ecosystem needs to be ready to build consistently in a post-pandemic world is communication. We all realise now that physical communication is not really there anymore. For example, here in the UAE, we’ve been working with financial companies located a few blocks from here that we’ve never met face-to-face. So, modern communication will be key in re-establishing that flow of data between the technology provider from one side and the receiver from the other side. Also, post-pandemic, you have to be agile with whatever challenges the financial system throws at your feet.

Ibrahim Muhammad: Trust and innovation shouldn’t be competing; they have to go hand-in-hand. Regulatory bodies need to understand what innovation actually brings to the table and how they can ensure that this innovation does not cause any sort of issues with the consumers or stakeholders. It has to be a balanced approach and they have to work in a very collaborative manner. Regulatory bodies need to be more aware of what’s happening in the innovation space, and they should really understand the needs and then set up the regulations accordingly.

Kathy Tomasofsky: I think you have to build trust and communication but I would also add education into the mix, and that goes back to my earlier point – the regulators have so much coming at them that they need someone to help facilitate it all. At MSBA, we represent the services of eighty different companies; from companies that sell prepaid cards to small MTOs. Being able to present such a diverse group to regulators helps to accelerate that communication and education, and helps to build trust.

Our thanks to Kathy, Ibrahim, and Farook for their words and their time.

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